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Hi, this is Marcus. I’m editor at large for mmm and I’m super excited for you to plug into this episode of a 100 Studio sessions a new podcast series, which gives members of the mmm agency 100 list and opportunity to Riff on what sets them apart.

In this episode we’re focusing on the agency juice farmer worldwide, which has long been a First Choice partner for clients looking to grow fledgling biotech and Medtech assets and its approached to digital.

And delighted to be joined by Chris ozanian Chief experience officer and kochet Petrova Chief business officer. Both our new additions to the juice family this past year in addition to juices digital strategy. We’re going to be talking about their culture and perhaps find out whether Chris and Koch’s musical taste have shifted since they join the fold Koch and Chris. Welcome to MMM Studio sessions. Thank you.

Thank you Mark. Good to be here.

Absolutely. Great to have you both in the studio here. Let’s just get started with initial question here juice has been in business for more than 20 years talk about. What what’s your secret sauce to staying relevant in such Dynamic and evolving field as this one.

It is a big question indeed Mark and Juice has been a formidable presence in the marketing of Pharma for over 20 years. It established a self as an agency of first and so many fields and first and foremost set out to do things differently. And that was the Mantra at the beginning of the agency’s history. We brought so much innovation in terms of multi-channel and social to launches in the vaccine space in rare disease, but we also continuously honed that skill of mass-market launches and really pride ourselves with a number of DTC commercials that were aired on National Airways, which really mastered the this point a wide range of capabilities over this two decades and what we pride ourselves and is now our ability to cross-pollinate this knowledge effectively across all of our clients assignments. Well, when you mentioned Secret Sauce, you know, I’m really compelled to mention that what we really stand for is the unleashing the energy of the brands to elevate the impact on the business Pharm.

Critical brands are the most Purpose Driven products in the world when we get to work on a communication campaign for a form of brand it already cares the charge of potential energy that is designed to make an impact on the lives of the patients out there. So our job is really to unleash this potential and Elevate the impact of this product on the lives of the patients and we believe that our job first and foremost is to drive this to our


Yeah like that the farmer brands are the most purposeful Purpose Driven of All Brands. It’s a really nicely nicely put Chris want to build on it.

Yeah, so finding that hidden potential and uncovering the depth of what we’re offering. It’s it’s not easy. It’s a team effort and you know, it rests on three key pillars.

I would say one we need to be able to see the market shifts before they happen and really kind of get ahead of that. I think understanding and being aware of any kind of industry or digital or trends that may be emerging and quickly developed kind of povs and understand how they fit into our clients businesses both today and potentially in the future is important and then we have to translate all of these Innovations into something our customers understand and appreciate and understand where the business value really is. It’s not some abstract exercise. It’s a real tangible thing and it impacts people’s lives. I think but you know, it isn’t a formula that we can just plug into

It’s a team burning with curiosity, you know, and that’s comfortable living in a space of what we know and what we don’t know and what might be coming over the horizon A team’s constantly kind of fine-tuning its point of view and then like, you know, that’s the kind of culture that we’ve cultivated at juice and we consider ourselves to be incredibly, you know, fortunate to have done that

sure and Chris. You’re You Know Chief experience officer, and I’m I know a fair bit of that what you do every day. I’m sure involves.

Digital to use the term, you know broadly and obviously that term is table Stakes nowadays. If you’re not creating, you know personalized relevant experiences for stakeholders, then you’re probably not going to get too much business but love to get your take on that, you know, what is digital first mean to you and is there anything in particular that you would say you deliver to clients that gives you an edge?

Sure. Well digital first isn’t just the catch phrase. It’s something that we have to live every day and it’s a fundamental principle at the same time here at juice. It’s about perpetually fine-tuning our digital expertise our talent and our processes. Sure. Sometimes it’s about embracing the latest platforms or Technologies, but often it’s about continuingly improving how we operate in ways that Foster Inception development and delivery like truly through multi-channel campaigns and at the end of the day success is impossible without

Digital first mindset so, you know our brand building needs to mirror the shifts and human behavior and how people learn and consume information and are influence by and share and how they share knowledge. Right? So how customers like like us navigate an incredibly complex world of ever multiplying channels and growing data complexity and diminishing free time, you know rather than shy away from this complexity. We’ve embraced it and we craft our work to meet our customers where they are and engage with their existing habits and build upon that you know, our methods are rooted in principles of centered around creating Dynamic customer experiences and fluid ecosystems and encompassing data driven strategies and digital content production. And the beauty of it is that we can scale it and make it meaningful regardless of the budgets that our clients have at their disposal.

Hey, I like talking about the agencies Zeitgeist because you all in addition to having to communicate.

And increasingly sophisticated array of Pharma and Medtech products. You’ve also got a be familiar with the Bevy of you know, the proliferation of different media channels. It’s out there and you’re patients in hcps ever shifting information health information needs which obviously shifted quite a bit during the pandemic. So considering this ever-changing nature of the digital world and the growing pressure.

To get to the market fast and iterate constantly. How does juice adapt to this new reality, you know talk about how to how you stay Nimble touch if you

know Mark it’s a great question, you know, and we will laugh at juice sometimes that you know Jews live the principles of agile way before agile became fashionable and became a buzzword because we’ve always accepted the market reality as a dynamic evolving space.

And everything that we do from planning to deployment to analytics is responsive in nature. We do not believe in talking at customer with the brand first POV. We’re looking for ways to tap and then mesh with existing behavioral patterns and to drive the change from within to use the power of intrinsic connections. We think it’s very important to establish that dialogue between the brand and the customer and become an organic part of that conversation. Not just to be the dictating force that only brings the data we’re interested in a two-way street communication with our customers.

Yeah, we’re

definitely seeing evidence of this growing appeal of this approach in a way of that our clients and vision their brand launches and growth the error of one size fits. All brand campaign is truly over and now content real-time analytics and the power of iteration is, you know, even more important

I think even you know, the big budget Brands those executing like National broadcast campaigns are searching for more ways to do more with less and this isn’t about slashing budgets, but it’s about being responsive true multi-channel development can adapt and evolve they’re looking for assets that could perform across channels and guide customers along their journey and ultimately leading them to conversations. I think this is where we step in at juice crafting these digital first strategies that resonate with these modern demands of our clients and the people that they serve

sure you mentioned multi-channel a few times during this the discussion. I’m sure you would agree the trend is towards syncing up all the different channels in an omni Channel fashion. How have you all at juice kind of adapt to the agency’s processes re-engineered your approach so to speak to ensure that kind of speed.

Strategically sound approach that you talked about.

It’s truly so important, you know and with constantly work on shortening the distance between the Strategic content and tactical deployment and we’ll pride ourselves in making campaigns more responsive to those Market realities which is talked about and as they say Mark, you know Vision Without action is just the pipe dream.

And in the essence of action and the regulated time timeline driven environment is the right ways of working aligned with multi-channel delivery.

Yeah or

Omni Channel delivery. I think, you know at the end of the day all of our processes line up to delivering, you know, high value work fairly quickly and you know, we’ve undergone a substantial evolution in our approach to content planning and development and urging our teams to minimize waste and adhere to Agile principles that are going to help us Propel forward ideation and development.

But I also want to Spotlight that we’ve elevated our vision for campaigns in line with our working methods. Our strategic planning is Nimble and it’s built on Dynamic set of hypotheses that we put to the test in Real World Market data and as contea mentioned earlier, our mission is never to talk at customers but to connect with them in their spaces in ways that truly resonate with them like this to us is at the heart of being an accelerator agency having the ability to unlock the potential of Brands to Spur their growth. It’s about harnessing the power of digital first mentality to meet the customers where they are and guide them toward meaningful engagements and actions. That’s our commitment that we’ve made at juice.

It is having those sort of thing organic types of conversations rather than you know, talking at customers and more journalistic fashion. That sounds to be in step with what customers, you know are looking for these days. Let’s talk a little bit more about where the industry is going. You know, we see

We’ve seen for years as I’m sure your degree so that the trend toward specialty Drugs High science products or personalized products cartee, you know at ASCO they even had a presentation the other day about a personalized cancer vaccine that’s coming through development and obviously these require their own set of considerations from a marketing perspective. And then you kind of on the flip side, you know, you have your mass Market type of Brands as we used to call them that are perhaps less specialty but more in you know, appealing to a broader array of customers this juice kind of cover the gamut. What would you say is your sweet spot?

I really love this question because we as marketers always follow the first principles of marketing, right and first and foremost is that single-minded value proposition right that we all encourage to stand for and it’s very easy for Jews to claim our value props sitting and digital or high science launch prow.

But truth be told Jews chooses to do it in the way that centers on who we serve and how we work so we can claim the ability to elevate that impact for all of our clients and really tap into that broad range of capabilities on the know-how with developed over the years to effectively cross-pollinate this knowledge and Elevate the impact for all we’ve had great successful. The marketing teams who will like calling Brave Trailblazers, you know, who challenged themselves with the purpose with the purpose of improving up on an unmet need or bringing a new solution to an old problem. We have a lot of those going on right because at the end of the days how you get to the customer right how you engage? Sometimes it’s less about the data and more about a human inside because the knowledge is going to fall flat if there is no response to your message. So we’re highly adaptive working on the Challenger brand assignments, you know, those folks who want to rewrite the playbooks and frankly it all categories.

Any scale because you know, there’s assignments. They require very specific blend of strategic and operational rigor that juice can deliver that with honed over the years.

Yeah, and

you know, we’ve handled the diverse array of engagements everything from Mass Market launches of a large molecule to Niche projects focused on rare disease to social campaigns promoting health and wellness, you know, this varied experience gives us a unique advantage and the ability to cross pollinate expertise effectively.

And in today’s ever-changing information landscape virtually every brand is looking to bolster their social media influencer strategy.

We’re excited to apply our pattern recognition skills honed through a wide variety of projects to achieve the best possible results for our clients.

You know, we understand that no two brands are the same. We leverage our richex expertise coupled with our digital first approach to Taylor strategies that fit our clients and their unique needs and goals, whether it’s harnessing the power of social media deploying influencers and innovative ways. We’re here to make sure that our clients, you know, make their Mark in this evolving digital landscape,

right speaking of Challenger Brands you seem to have been you know working with a lot of Challenger Brands. You guys also sound like your reiterate rewriting your own Playbook. How does that affect your culture? How do you keep the applications flowing into the agency? And what’s the typical kind of talent that you would say thrives at an agency like juice

a fantastic question because all our business is Talent business and you know, we think that one of the most important ingredients of just a success has been this ability to attract and retain the industry top industry Talent, you know, we really like calling these

People the agitators. This is the talent that crave opportunities to reimagine. What would you how would we do it? And they really bring those future State ideas to the table, but they don’t shy away from turning them into tangible and purposeful Solutions and our motto has always been infinitely curious and constantly engaged and when the talent Vibes with this energy then frankly anything is possible.

Yeah and

our founding Partners Lynn mccrone and Forest King instilled profound sense of Pride and delivering work that is creatively visceral and strategically impact but you know just to be clear achieving such outcomes is impossible without an open collaborative culture permeating across our cross-functional teams cultivating this ethos is essential because the only constant we have is change and the nimbleness of our process requires equally agile Minds working harmoniously toward

same objective

this unity in Pursuit

of impact and Innovation sets us apart at Jews and ensuring that we are continually delivering a promise of digital first customer-centric approach to branding.

But there’s another key ingredient and a recipe for Success. Everybody on the juice team is fiercely passionate and continually driven by the delivery of exceptional work yet. I’d be doing us a disservice. If I didn’t mention just the sheer joy we take in our work and revel and working together in tackling challenges problem solving not just because we have to but because we generally love what we do and I think that this element of fun and enjoyment

You know breathe extra life into our work and permeates through everything that we do as a company.

Yeah, he’s being the ultimate Purpose Driven Brands, you know, it’s easy to understand why

yeah, and you know, we’re a small company and we have the ability to bring people in that we think are going to be the best at doing what they do and a lot of that is not just the skills that they bring to the table. It’s their personalities too and their approach to work. So

sure sounds good. Wonderful ethos. Thank you for sharing all that one. Final question. I’ll let you both go this being the a 100 Studio sessions. I must ask you. What is the last song you both listen to?

Wants to go first Chris

he wants me to go first. So I I listened to music almost all day long and I tend to sing We we are offices are next to each other. So poor county has to listen to me thing. And obviously, I’m an advertising not the music industry, but I’m I’m big fan of 80s music and last song that I heard was Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode.

Okay. Nice.

Well, I can’t believe I’m hearing this because I’ve been warming up to the Depeche Mode tour in the US coming up in October been revisiting The Violator album.


and I do love this on walking in my shoes.

All right, it’s nice. Very cool.

That too Depeche Mode fans.


did. Yeah,

I mean it’s

that’s incredible the you know,

Back that you guys, you know work next to each other. It’s musical tastes are rubbing off. Okay. Well that was wonderful to that end as juice progresses in its Mission. I hope we can do this again. It’s a lot of fun love too, right? Okay. That was a great conversation come back for another one. This has been marcuskowitz. We’ll see you next time on a 100 studio session.